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	<title>Comments on: Season Post-Mortem, Part 1: The Year The Music Went Away</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good news is that America was able to see through this ruse and they gave the finger to the Idol powers that be by voting Kris for the win.  The sad part is that Allison, a girl with great talent, had to be sacrificed in order to see that.  Sure, I am a fan of Allison, and a very invested one at that.  However, since the powers that be dictated an Adam/Danny Finale, they had to intervene and underrate both Allie and Kris.  Sadly, one fanbase just got tired of this and simply gave up.  Adam&#039;s fans couldn&#039;t afford to split votes with Allison, Danny&#039;s fans were on fire to save him and Kris&#039; fans followed suit since his reviews were harsher IMO.  And that spelled the end of Allison&#039;s run.

Oh, and note to Idol producers, while you tried to push for what you call a &quot;great&quot; Finale, an Adam/Allie/Kris in the Top 3 would&#039;ve been a whole lot better.  Three great friends battling it out all in the good name of competition, erstwhile having fun:  that makes for great TV IMO.  And there would&#039;ve been no real losers.  But with your intervention, you guys lost credibility and many fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is that America was able to see through this ruse and they gave the finger to the Idol powers that be by voting Kris for the win.  The sad part is that Allison, a girl with great talent, had to be sacrificed in order to see that.  Sure, I am a fan of Allison, and a very invested one at that.  However, since the powers that be dictated an Adam/Danny Finale, they had to intervene and underrate both Allie and Kris.  Sadly, one fanbase just got tired of this and simply gave up.  Adam&#8217;s fans couldn&#8217;t afford to split votes with Allison, Danny&#8217;s fans were on fire to save him and Kris&#8217; fans followed suit since his reviews were harsher IMO.  And that spelled the end of Allison&#8217;s run.</p>
<p>Oh, and note to Idol producers, while you tried to push for what you call a &#8220;great&#8221; Finale, an Adam/Allie/Kris in the Top 3 would&#8217;ve been a whole lot better.  Three great friends battling it out all in the good name of competition, erstwhile having fun:  that makes for great TV IMO.  And there would&#8217;ve been no real losers.  But with your intervention, you guys lost credibility and many fans.</p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
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		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with a lot of it. I am not a regular Idol viewer. I have seen bits and pieces from a couple seasons, mostly when the top group is left, and most of this seasons top 10. This season has been by far the worst in terms of talent. Adam Lambert is a performer, not a singer. He won&#039;t sell well if he wins because his voice leaves a lot to be desired. He will do good in concerts because of his theater background, but not when listening to him on a record. Kris is more marketable but is still a mediocre singer that reminds me of a shallow boy band lead singer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of it. I am not a regular Idol viewer. I have seen bits and pieces from a couple seasons, mostly when the top group is left, and most of this seasons top 10. This season has been by far the worst in terms of talent. Adam Lambert is a performer, not a singer. He won&#8217;t sell well if he wins because his voice leaves a lot to be desired. He will do good in concerts because of his theater background, but not when listening to him on a record. Kris is more marketable but is still a mediocre singer that reminds me of a shallow boy band lead singer.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most blatant example of control by the producers is the Rock theme episode:  the pairing of the two strongest rock singer (they were only seeing $$$ in music downloads for this pairing), Kris singing after his duet with the &quot;other guy&quot; (never gave him a chance to recover), the unbelievably soft criticism of the &quot;worst note&quot; ever to be sung in idol history (they praised him for trying something new..huh?). Each one was a blatant display of trying to kick off the one person (Kris) that they never thought was going to get this far.

I&#039;m a fan of both Allison and Kris (also of Adam after &quot;mad money&quot;), and I strongly believe they decided that Allison had a better story line (because of her age) than Kris hence the pimping at the end. But they underestimated Kris&#039; popularity and talent. Now they are scrambling around the news media, and pushing for a showdown between their two &quot;pimped&quot; idols hoping that Kris doesn&#039;t pull through as the &quot;little engine that could&quot;. We can never have enough of talented singer/song writers in this country, and I hope Idol fans agree with me in the end: show these producers that we can still think for ourselves, and let the two that showed the most &quot;artistry&quot; throughout the show make it to the finals! Go Kris and Adam!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most blatant example of control by the producers is the Rock theme episode:  the pairing of the two strongest rock singer (they were only seeing $$$ in music downloads for this pairing), Kris singing after his duet with the &#8220;other guy&#8221; (never gave him a chance to recover), the unbelievably soft criticism of the &#8220;worst note&#8221; ever to be sung in idol history (they praised him for trying something new..huh?). Each one was a blatant display of trying to kick off the one person (Kris) that they never thought was going to get this far.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fan of both Allison and Kris (also of Adam after &#8220;mad money&#8221;), and I strongly believe they decided that Allison had a better story line (because of her age) than Kris hence the pimping at the end. But they underestimated Kris&#8217; popularity and talent. Now they are scrambling around the news media, and pushing for a showdown between their two &#8220;pimped&#8221; idols hoping that Kris doesn&#8217;t pull through as the &#8220;little engine that could&#8221;. We can never have enough of talented singer/song writers in this country, and I hope Idol fans agree with me in the end: show these producers that we can still think for ourselves, and let the two that showed the most &#8220;artistry&#8221; throughout the show make it to the finals! Go Kris and Adam!</p>
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		<title>By: ana maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>ana maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, as I&#039;ve said, I do think Danny is talented, and I admit that anytime. I just think he hasn&#039;t done anything to earn his spot, compared to the other contestants in the top 4, at least. This last statement is my complete opinion. I prefer any of the other three. Allison is my favorite and now she&#039;s gone. I like Kris&#039; style a lot and think he has an amazingly huge fan base, and I even think he could be a surprise for the final 2, and I actually hope so.
So, I&#039;m really not saying that Danny has no talent, I liked him at the start, very early, but he stopped giving me a reason to like him better than others. And I do admit that he has a big fan base and his fans are loyal, and he&#039;s made it &quot;deservedly&quot; if we consider that it has been with votes, not saves or anything. But he has always had a fair treat with the judges. Even when he was as bad as last Tuesday, they gave him an A for &quot;effort&quot;, as if the other contestants don&#039;t try as hard, as if Kris didn&#039;t try as hard on a night that wasn&#039;t his genre as well, and worse, as if Adam or Allison didn&#039;t try as hard just because it was their genre. And this has been all the way through, since they first meet Danny. So, of course he has gotten a better treatment than Kris and Allison.
I also admit Adam has gotten this special treatmen as well, and I&#039;m also not ok with it. The only difference, for me, is that I think that if they were all treated the same, Adam will still be where he is right now, and I&#039;m not so sure for Danny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as I&#8217;ve said, I do think Danny is talented, and I admit that anytime. I just think he hasn&#8217;t done anything to earn his spot, compared to the other contestants in the top 4, at least. This last statement is my complete opinion. I prefer any of the other three. Allison is my favorite and now she&#8217;s gone. I like Kris&#8217; style a lot and think he has an amazingly huge fan base, and I even think he could be a surprise for the final 2, and I actually hope so.<br />
So, I&#8217;m really not saying that Danny has no talent, I liked him at the start, very early, but he stopped giving me a reason to like him better than others. And I do admit that he has a big fan base and his fans are loyal, and he&#8217;s made it &#8220;deservedly&#8221; if we consider that it has been with votes, not saves or anything. But he has always had a fair treat with the judges. Even when he was as bad as last Tuesday, they gave him an A for &#8220;effort&#8221;, as if the other contestants don&#8217;t try as hard, as if Kris didn&#8217;t try as hard on a night that wasn&#8217;t his genre as well, and worse, as if Adam or Allison didn&#8217;t try as hard just because it was their genre. And this has been all the way through, since they first meet Danny. So, of course he has gotten a better treatment than Kris and Allison.<br />
I also admit Adam has gotten this special treatmen as well, and I&#8217;m also not ok with it. The only difference, for me, is that I think that if they were all treated the same, Adam will still be where he is right now, and I&#8217;m not so sure for Danny.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The public only put Danny into the Top 3 because of Simon...people that are not long time fans of this show tink that Simon knows what he is talking about.  This season, I wonder if Simon is trying to tank the show on his way out.

Now, the funng thing about me saying that is I started the season as a Danny fan.  But then I realized he just wasn&#039;t that great - there were so many others that were better.  I&#039;m now a Kris fan but I know that unless there is some sort of miracle this week he&#039;s out.  That happens, I&#039;m all about Adam.  And I know there are definitely a lot of Kris fans who feel the same way I do and would never consider putting their support behind Gokey but will support Adam.  There are likely many Allison fans who feel the same way (my husband loved her but now he&#039;s joined me in the Kris fan land).

Besides the public, the contestants are the ones who get the raw end of thsi deal.  A contestant like Allison never had a chance because she was not one of the chosen ones.  Ditto, why Kris will be the one out this week.  They went against the plans of TPTB.  All season they&#039;ve been hyping a Dany/Adam finale and the judges have publicly come out and said that numerous times to numerous media.  The never gave an Allison a chance.  And this week they will once again thrwo Kris under the bus he pulled himself out from under last week.

I&#039;m done with this show and it&#039;s manipulations (and the last time I really watched was Season 2 when Clay should have won, but well...)

Congratulations Idol - keepp moving in this direction and I won&#039;t be the only fan you lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The public only put Danny into the Top 3 because of Simon&#8230;people that are not long time fans of this show tink that Simon knows what he is talking about.  This season, I wonder if Simon is trying to tank the show on his way out.</p>
<p>Now, the funng thing about me saying that is I started the season as a Danny fan.  But then I realized he just wasn&#8217;t that great &#8211; there were so many others that were better.  I&#8217;m now a Kris fan but I know that unless there is some sort of miracle this week he&#8217;s out.  That happens, I&#8217;m all about Adam.  And I know there are definitely a lot of Kris fans who feel the same way I do and would never consider putting their support behind Gokey but will support Adam.  There are likely many Allison fans who feel the same way (my husband loved her but now he&#8217;s joined me in the Kris fan land).</p>
<p>Besides the public, the contestants are the ones who get the raw end of thsi deal.  A contestant like Allison never had a chance because she was not one of the chosen ones.  Ditto, why Kris will be the one out this week.  They went against the plans of TPTB.  All season they&#8217;ve been hyping a Dany/Adam finale and the judges have publicly come out and said that numerous times to numerous media.  The never gave an Allison a chance.  And this week they will once again thrwo Kris under the bus he pulled himself out from under last week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m done with this show and it&#8217;s manipulations (and the last time I really watched was Season 2 when Clay should have won, but well&#8230;)</p>
<p>Congratulations Idol &#8211; keepp moving in this direction and I won&#8217;t be the only fan you lose.</p>
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		<title>By: ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you about everything, except that Danny Gokey hasn&#039;t earned his way into the final.  In fact, if anything he is the one that has been kept in the competition by the viewers.  The judges haven&#039;t put him there, the public has, and he deserves it.  He&#039;s never been eliminated and saved.  He&#039;s never been in the bottom three.  

The judges are ALL clearly behind Adam Lambert to win and have been since Top 10.  The bloggers and recappers, like yourself, are all behind mainly Allison, Adam and to some extent, Kris.  Despite all that pressure, the voting public STILL likes Danny Gokey because he&#039;s been delivering consistently good, emotional performances, not just some vocal scale exercise showing off his range.  If you all were honest, you&#039;d admit it.  At least we see it and we do what we want, not what we&#039;re told.  yay America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about everything, except that Danny Gokey hasn&#8217;t earned his way into the final.  In fact, if anything he is the one that has been kept in the competition by the viewers.  The judges haven&#8217;t put him there, the public has, and he deserves it.  He&#8217;s never been eliminated and saved.  He&#8217;s never been in the bottom three.  </p>
<p>The judges are ALL clearly behind Adam Lambert to win and have been since Top 10.  The bloggers and recappers, like yourself, are all behind mainly Allison, Adam and to some extent, Kris.  Despite all that pressure, the voting public STILL likes Danny Gokey because he&#8217;s been delivering consistently good, emotional performances, not just some vocal scale exercise showing off his range.  If you all were honest, you&#8217;d admit it.  At least we see it and we do what we want, not what we&#8217;re told.  yay America.</p>
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		<title>By: Snail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Blueprintbaby:  I agree about the SYTYCD bit, and I&#039;m stoked waiting for it.  I&#039;m really beginning to see how much input Nigel had on Idol and why he wanted to leave - SYTYCD totally sticks to showcasing the real talent - and it&#039;s awesome talent, too - without the judges feeling like they have to select a pet during the auditions, or force that pet down everyone&#039;s throats while slamming the truly good ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Blueprintbaby:  I agree about the SYTYCD bit, and I&#8217;m stoked waiting for it.  I&#8217;m really beginning to see how much input Nigel had on Idol and why he wanted to leave &#8211; SYTYCD totally sticks to showcasing the real talent &#8211; and it&#8217;s awesome talent, too &#8211; without the judges feeling like they have to select a pet during the auditions, or force that pet down everyone&#8217;s throats while slamming the truly good ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did not watch season 6 and season7.  But I decided to watch again this year.  I am really enjoying watching Adam, Kris, and Allison.  And I was just telling my husband last week that I really wish they had sung more songs this year.  I REALLY wish we had Adam in the old round of 24 format so we could have seen him a few more times.  And I REALLY wish they had sang 2 songs in the round of 4 and 2 songs in the round of 5.  I can not believe it is an hour show and we only hear 10 minutes of singing!  I want more singing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not watch season 6 and season7.  But I decided to watch again this year.  I am really enjoying watching Adam, Kris, and Allison.  And I was just telling my husband last week that I really wish they had sung more songs this year.  I REALLY wish we had Adam in the old round of 24 format so we could have seen him a few more times.  And I REALLY wish they had sang 2 songs in the round of 4 and 2 songs in the round of 5.  I can not believe it is an hour show and we only hear 10 minutes of singing!  I want more singing!</p>
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		<title>By: ana maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>ana maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article. You just post everything that went wrong with this season. As some have comment, I&#039;m used to the pimping as well, but this season has make it unbelievable. We were lucky to have two contestants, at least (Kris and Allison) that were able to overcame their plans, and in the way they have been treated with the least respect possible and even being humiliated. Now, one has been sacrificed because maybe her fanbase couldn&#039;t handle it anymore. Allison should be in the top 3, that&#039;s a fact, I don&#039;t know which one, Kris or Danny should be in her place, but I&#039;ll say the latter, mostly for personal preferences, I like Kris&#039;s style better. I can&#039;t deny the talent Adam has, and I won&#039;t say Danny isn&#039;t talented because it would be lying, but what&#039;s true is that he hasn&#039;t done anything since the semifinals to prove he deserves his actual spot. But at least Kris has earned his fans with no help at all. He has earned them in such a way that he defied every initial plan from the producers and judges. His fanbase responded better than Allison&#039;s and that&#039;s the reason he&#039;s here, but if it would be the producer&#039;s choice, he would have been gone already.
I can&#039;t believe such a successful show need to get to this point, sacrificing talent over what they think people want. The best final they could have ever had (Adam and Allison) just slipped over their hands and it&#039;s a shame. They will realize this sometime, and I hope they regret it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. You just post everything that went wrong with this season. As some have comment, I&#8217;m used to the pimping as well, but this season has make it unbelievable. We were lucky to have two contestants, at least (Kris and Allison) that were able to overcame their plans, and in the way they have been treated with the least respect possible and even being humiliated. Now, one has been sacrificed because maybe her fanbase couldn&#8217;t handle it anymore. Allison should be in the top 3, that&#8217;s a fact, I don&#8217;t know which one, Kris or Danny should be in her place, but I&#8217;ll say the latter, mostly for personal preferences, I like Kris&#8217;s style better. I can&#8217;t deny the talent Adam has, and I won&#8217;t say Danny isn&#8217;t talented because it would be lying, but what&#8217;s true is that he hasn&#8217;t done anything since the semifinals to prove he deserves his actual spot. But at least Kris has earned his fans with no help at all. He has earned them in such a way that he defied every initial plan from the producers and judges. His fanbase responded better than Allison&#8217;s and that&#8217;s the reason he&#8217;s here, but if it would be the producer&#8217;s choice, he would have been gone already.<br />
I can&#8217;t believe such a successful show need to get to this point, sacrificing talent over what they think people want. The best final they could have ever had (Adam and Allison) just slipped over their hands and it&#8217;s a shame. They will realize this sometime, and I hope they regret it.</p>
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		<title>By: blueprintbaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>blueprintbaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well written. You put everything I&#039;ve been bitching about this whole season into a well-thought out article. I know we&#039;re not saving the world here, but could America have some say? I won&#039;t watch anymore because they&#039;ll kick Kris off Wed night and then who cares? I care that Allison never got the credit she deserved. And I loved the guest judges way better than the 4. It&#039;s not just Kara. They have the audacity to call the singers &quot;self-indulgent,&quot; I guess they should know better than anyone what self-indulgence looks like. The pimping is out of control and I could care less. I do disagree with Fox going away if Idol fails again because I am thoroughly looking forward to So You Think You Can Dance. The judges are much better; the talent is out of control and the overall show is just better.

Thanks, Idol Guy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written. You put everything I&#8217;ve been bitching about this whole season into a well-thought out article. I know we&#8217;re not saving the world here, but could America have some say? I won&#8217;t watch anymore because they&#8217;ll kick Kris off Wed night and then who cares? I care that Allison never got the credit she deserved. And I loved the guest judges way better than the 4. It&#8217;s not just Kara. They have the audacity to call the singers &#8220;self-indulgent,&#8221; I guess they should know better than anyone what self-indulgence looks like. The pimping is out of control and I could care less. I do disagree with Fox going away if Idol fails again because I am thoroughly looking forward to So You Think You Can Dance. The judges are much better; the talent is out of control and the overall show is just better.</p>
<p>Thanks, Idol Guy!</p>
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